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lee blackman
Thu 1 Dec 2005
10:48
7 posts

I have been intrestsed in buying a council property up until now, recently i saw a programe on TV where someone had bought a flat in a council property, the council carried out repair works to the block without the person even knowing and then charged him something like 20k as a contribution towards the costs. Would you have to pay this being a private owner and do you have any legal rights to refuse the payment?

Gareth Thomas
Mon 16 Jan 2006
12:20
1 posts

You have no legal right to refuse payment of repair costs incurred by the lovely old council on your behalf, unless you can prove the work was over-priced, not needed etc. In other words, the council acted fraudulently, negligently etc.

Big trouble has been brewing over council leaseholders that bought into the homeownership myth perpetuated by that silver-haired monster back in the 80's and 90's (yes, I'm talking about the Lady Thatcher. If I've offended anybody...).

Councils have been poor at dealing with their money and haven't had the funds to do up council estates. The latest wheeze is to go private, by transferring whole estates in need of repair to Government quangos (Housing Associations) which can then borrow money, get big grants (bribes - or regeneration grants) for transferring and then implement major capital works to the estate to bring the blocks upto today's minimum standard. That means new kitchens, bathrooms, new roofs, new lifts, new services and lighting, new parking facilities, new playgroups or community centres and associated community things and so on. You as a leaseholder will pay for most of that (not the kitchens and bathrooms etc of existing council tenants) but the bigger things to the block and possibly the surrounding areas. If you live in the flat as a leaseholder, your charges may be capped. If you are an investor and let your flat, there is usually no cap, unless you lie to the council and say you are living there. Be careful on this one for those of you that are sub-letting and haven't informed the council. The best thing is to check your lease and see what you are or may be liable for.

Some blocks won't be as pricey as £20k though. I have an investment property in London E3 that I am looking to sell soon that will cost only £6k approx. That is what they (the Housing Association) have intimated and looking at the amount of work involved I believe them. Thankfully mine doesn't have a lift, which is usually the killer.

I would advise getting in touch with your local Leaseholders Association for advice. You should be a member anyway to support them as they help many council and private leaseholders.

tom harwood
Mon 16 Jan 2006
21:05
386 posts

gareth - great post. very helpful.

i nearly bought a property recently in an auction but pulled last minute as i could not get an answer from the council as to the likely forward looking cost (which i knew were going to be quite high). as i couldn't quantify my risk i pulled out.

tom

Anthony Edge
Mon 30 Jan 2006
17:41
3 posts

A friend of mine bought her Council House 18 months ago after the Council told her Solicitor 'No Work was planned'!!

She now has a bill for £70k plus.

Tony

Simon Heald
Sat 4 Feb 2006
10:02
234 posts

Hi Tony,

Surely what was said to the solicitor would have some legal say into whether or not she pays this 70k bill?

Sounds like even if you do your due diligence and research you can still get screwed by these people!!

Makes you think!

Simon

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