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General (main property discussion here) - Dodging The Price Fall?

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Matthew Holland
Mon 31 Jan 2005
11:52
167 posts

Hi

As house prices in the UK are falling/standing still, would you advise buying overseas for now, until the market stables here.

For example, to buy in america, you need a 20% min deposit, so thats an 80% mortgage, i need to research what there house prices are doing, but if there currently rising, would it not be a good idea to skip England for now, and buy overseas?

Thanks

Matt

Will Foot
Mon 31 Jan 2005
12:38
134 posts

Tough one.

So many other risks to take into account when dealing with overseas. I think you'll find that the US housing market has been even more rampant than ours. Plus the currency risk - the dollar has fallen sharply recently - whether this makes it a cheap opportunity to get in the market, or whether there is further for the dollar to fall, who knows.

One country which did catch my eye is Greece - I think it was in the FT that I read house prices fell 8% this year. I'm going to do more research to find out if they have had the boom over there yet and if it's now falling back, but I have a feeling that they haven't boomed at all in the same way (or maybe the Olympics distorted things?). I think the Greeks are fairly debt-averse, so possibly less likely they've boomed in the same way as the rest of Europe/ US?

It's anyone's guess what'll happen in this country, let aloneabroad imo!

Will

Matthew Holland
Mon 31 Jan 2005
12:46
167 posts

Good post Will, thankyou.

Everyone i seem to meet is telling me to stay away from buying in England now, so im trying to be safe and thought about overseas.

I have not researched anywhere buy America yet, you can get some good propertys over there in the sun (Florida) at great prices, compared to England.

And i thought i could rent out to holiday makers aswel, renting out at £300 a week, when the monthly mortgage would only be £250!!!

If anyone here already has a property in Florida, or America for that fact, your advice would be a god send!!

Thanks

Matt

Will Foot
Mon 31 Jan 2005
12:57
134 posts

Yes, there is a greater range of prices of properties compared to what we are used to. I'm not talking from experience, but a family friend in his 80s just purchased a "mobile home" on a park over there. They're not what we'd call a mobile home - there's no wheels or anything (!) and it looks like a chalet I guess. But it's less substantial than a brick house, and you could pick up a 2 bed place for less than £40k (in Port Charlotte, near Fort Myers). The Canadians come down every winter to escape their deep freeze, so there's good renting opportunities I think.

The particular park he is on is for over-55s, so although you limit your customer-base, you'll probably have less problem tenants!

Will

tom harwood
Mon 31 Jan 2005
22:02
386 posts

timing is not what it was for investment in the uk but that said it is a solid bet. the economy is sound and prices have stabilised.

also you need to be careful of exchange rate risk. you can wipe out all profits simply from a 20% movement in the dollar or euro.

over recent months i have thought long and hard about this and i even nearly invested abroad but i have decided investing abroad is probably not for me. i don't understand the language, culture and exchange risk is a big worry.

stick with the uk!

tom

John Grigg
Mon 31 Jan 2005
22:09
201 posts

I find it hard to understand Americans too Tom

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